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Mac Pro Mid 2010, OS corruption

I use this Mac Pro as a dedicated pro DAW. My OS partition crashed, with much difficulty reinstalled MAC OS High Sierra, as this was the latest available OS. I use dedicated audio software which will be its own challenge to get up and running, but what browser can I install that will be reliable, the Safari version is 11.1.2 which came preinstalled with OS. I could be wrong but I think I experienced issues with a few sites not loading properly. Also I dont this machine functional beyond its use case (DAW), how much can I rely on this moving forward?


Questions about the Hard disk with the OS partition. I can navigate it fine via terminal but it only populates finder with library, system and Users folders. Obviously its not a hardware failure I can complete verify or repairs, this is factory installed HD and OS, is there a reason why there is a partition other than the OS, factory, I remember seeing is a possible recovery HD


Thank you for any insight.

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Posted on Dec 24, 2024 3:20 PM

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Dec 25, 2024 12:11 PM in response to soundselecta

if you were successful in re-installing MacOS, it should have installed about two dozen system Applications into the /Applications folder, and a dozen more inside that in the /Utilities folder.


try asking Spotlight to find Disk Utility for you (its name does have a space in it). if found, press the Command key to see what Directory it was found in.

Dec 25, 2024 1:52 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I apologize I prolly should’ve mentioned I installed the new OS (high sierra) on a brand new hard disk, as I had posted the issue on another post with the help of the community (one kind gentlemen in particular), we did some investigating via trail and error and came to the conclusion the HD was dead (hw failure). However I had my apprehensions as I could still see the HD in disk utility and both partitions on re-install OSX in recovery mode so to me didn’t make any sense (even though Apple support stated that was normal, it isn’t if the HD is actually dead you won’t see it anywhere), furthermore I had also removed that hd physically to test my theory and the recovery was actually running from a partition on the assumed dead hd, which obviously would not load recovery (I would only see a folder with “?”, when trying to boot into recovery). So in that light on the new HD and new installation of OS X HS, I see all things normal. But on the questionable hard it’s not the normal folders. I had a lot of trouble reinstalling OSX, I had to downgrade to HS as Mojave didn’t accept the video card, on top of the usb boot installer creation app always crashing (had to use third party software which was actually a great piece of software) in order to make the usb boot installer. So to conclude all things look normal on the questionable hard disk but only in terminal. In finder it starts to hang when I navigate thru folders (that are present). Merry Xmas btw 😝!

Dec 25, 2024 3:25 PM in response to soundselecta

the definition of a drive that has died, is one that will not provide Disk Utility with BOTH

its appropriate make&model AND

a reasonable non-zero size/capacity.

Such a drive can not be Repaired, Erased, or used with its current connection method.


When you run Disk Utility, it checks the Disk Directory, and ONLY the Directory, for integrity and self-consistency. It does not read ANY data blocks, at all.


So to find the complete picture of the health of a modern drive, other methods must be used. These methods depend on a feature of modern SATA and later drives. These features fall into the class of SMART status.


When a block is found to require substantial re-reading and error-correction, or a block can no longer be read in 1,000 re-tries, the drive controller 'takes names'. Those block numbers are put on a drive controller's list of questionable blocks, so that they can be examined in detail later.


So one way to check a drive's health is to read out the full SMART status, and check the parameter (among others) called "Current Pending sectors" which tells us how long is the list of marginal blocks that have yet to be resolved. A popular solution for Macs today is DriveDX by BinaryFruit, a low cost/no cost Utility.


Drives carry spare blocks, that are substituted for blocks found to be bad. Suffice it to say that drives can heal a MODEST number of Bad Blocks, but only when NEW data are written to marginal blocks. when a drive runs out of spare blocks, initialization and disk writes failing you get errors.


The other way is the erase the drive, and re-install something complicated onto it. Say, something with more than 350,000 files in it that takes up more than 20 GB. That would be some version of MacOS . Erasing a modern rotating Magnetic drive only literally erases the section that will soon hold the directory. The rest of the blocks are unchanged. Only be re-writing MANY files can we determine whether the drive is good and seems to be staying good.


If you erase a drive and re-install MacOS and the files don't "stick" and appear and behave properly, the drive is very likely to be bad. At least Bad enough that it can no longer be trusted with your precious data. That is, after all, the real metric of whether a drive is working adequately for your use.



Mac Pro Mid 2010, OS corruption

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