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Mac Pro 5,1 won’t display video, respond to keyboard commands, or seemingly boot any drives. possible firmware corruption of sorts, power button command not working as expected.

I’ve been having troubles with my Mac Pro 5,1 since yesterday and I have no idea how to fix it. It has an RX 580 GPU which of course isn’t EFI flashed so I have no idea if it’s displaying any sort of error codes/screens upon boot up. I have some notion of what may have happened, that being I had powered it down to put the drive from my 2008 MacBook (MacBook 5,1) which was running a patched version of Mojave into the Mac Pro, and I’m guessing after putting it in it tried booting off of that drive for whatever reason and it subsequently did something to the EFI, while somehow erasing the boot partition on the patched drive, but nothing else. I’m guessing because because the patched drive was only meant to be run by a MacBook 5,1 there were some issues with the boot process, but as far as I know those patches only modify the software, not the firmware, however I could be mistaken on that. But either way, I’m having troubles with the firmware restoration command that uses the power button. Following this guide: Firmware Restoration CD 1.9 it tells me to hold the power button until I see 3 rapid flashes 3 slower flashes then 3 more rapid flashes from the sleep LED, then 3 long tones, however when I hold the power button down, the light will rapidly flash and then make this sound: https://youtu.be/y2lXkYEkDXo?si=cwOzgtTFodGKzAvD So after finally figuring out that was the firmware update command, I powered it on and held the power button until it did that sequence, then left it for about 45 minutes but to no avail. The instructions in the aforementioned apple support article told me to download and burn a dmg file to a CD, which I did, but I’m very confused about the power button command, and if I’m maybe doing something wrong? I’m just so confused and I have no way to actually tell if it’s indeed a firmware issue, as I don’t have functioning Radeon HD5770s or a GeForce GT120 either. But the goal is to restore the firmware and see if it works. If anyone can help I’d really appreciate it, thanks!

Posted on Feb 21, 2024 11:47 AM

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Feb 21, 2024 4:16 PM in response to Luke_Lundberg

Your ARE doing something wrong.

You don't have a firmware problem.


<< it subsequently did something to the EFI. >>


that is complete Nonsense. Mac Pro firmware is VERY strongly backward and forward compatible, and the firmware is permanently stored on the processor, and you can't write older over newer whatever sequence you use. The firmware essentially can't be modified once upgraded. It does not change when you change drives, erase drives, or anything else, unless you change the processor module installed on the slide-out shelf.


Put away that ANTIQUE firmware CD and forget it ever existed. If you have installed Mojave, you are so far beyond the Firmware CD capabilities it's not even funny.


if you Mac won't start, the firmware is not the reason it won't start.

Feb 21, 2024 4:42 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Sheesh man, could’ve just told me the CD won’t work and that would’ve been fine. But if it’s not an EFI problem and no drives work regardless of version (I’ve tried drives with both Mojave and High Sierra which I think is the lowest the RX 580 can go, I’m not sure) then do you have any idea what could be the problem?


Feb 21, 2024 5:02 PM in response to Luke_Lundberg

My response was calibrated to what and how you wrote.


You wrote on and on and on about your firmware problem. Without pausing or providing ANY white space in what you wrote.


Your post above makes no sense, because it is all based on the premise that you have clobbered your firmware. Because the text is so dense, it is impenetrable. I can not read it without losing my place and having to start over. I suggest you either:


• Run you experiments again, knowing that clobbered firmware is NOT the issue -OR-


• Provide a summary of what your symptoms are, and do not write more than five lines with providing visual break. Then your writing can actually be read, and re-read, and followed closely.

Feb 21, 2024 7:05 PM in response to Luke_Lundberg

The initial "chime" sound is generated in software when your Mac passes the Power-On Self Test. If the chime occurs and/or startup continues, your Mac is working. The screen should light up and draw a blank gray screen. Then on to the Disk Drive.


Accessing the Boot drive:

The solid Apple is not in the Mac's ROM at Cold start. The Apple logo can only appear when it is fetched in the first "blob" of software loaded from a 'magic' place on the boot drive, or re-run after a Restart. Then a whole lot of stuff is initialized, and the progress Bar moves part way across. After a cold start, seeing the solid Apple appear says your drive was able to produce the software that contains the Apple logo.


If a prohibitory sign appears at this point, it indicates some fundamental part of MacOS is damaged or wrong version.

Mounting the Boot drive:

The next step requires a lot of files by name, so the File System is initialized, and the Boot Drive is Mounted. If the drive directory is damaged, the drive can not be Mounted, so your Mac begins one pass of Disk Utility Repair. This will take an additional about five minutes. During this process, the progress bar may be extended, and will grow by an additional amount not seen on a routine startup.

at the end of that process (which should not take more than about five minutes), it will attempt to Mount the drive again:

-- if the drive Mounts, boot-up continues.

-- if the drive cannot be Mounted, your Mac can do nothing more, so it powers off.

-- if the process stalls, this may indicate you have Bad Blocks on your Rotating Magnetic Boot drive (if so equipped). The re-reading of Bad blocks can take a very long time (on the order of a quarter minute for each Bad Block).

Feb 21, 2024 7:22 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I’ve started getting the initial ‘bong’ chime, however, as I mentioned in my original message my GPU is not EFI flashed. So no gray screen appears until I get the Apple logo, and that’s what I’m not getting.


So if there are any error screens in that initial gray screen I can’t see them.


And I’ve noticed that I only have to do a single short press to get it to shut down as opposed to the normal press and hold, which is what happens when you get an error screen. (I.E. The prohibitory symbol, or the file with ? symbol)

Feb 21, 2024 5:22 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Alright.


•The computer refuses to respond to keyboard commands (I.E. I attempted a PRAM reset, booting into recovery mode, boot switcher etc.)


•The computer doesn’t show signs of booting any known working drives I put in it


And if there’s nothing wrong with the EFI, which keep in mind I don’t know too much about, then I don’t know of any other current problems.



Mac Pro 5,1 won’t display video, respond to keyboard commands, or seemingly boot any drives. possible firmware corruption of sorts, power button command not working as expected.

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