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HP printer just won't work with MBP15 / Sequoia

I just can't get drivers to make my HP LaserJet MFP M480f printer work reliably and stably with my MBP15 (M2 Pro) running the latest macOS.


HP have software you can install to download drivers. But it says "cannot find drivers" (lol!) and directs me to a different HP site where, similarly, I cannot find drivers. There is no reference to any OS later than 12.0. It's nothing less than insane that I cannot make a MacBook talk to an "industry standard" printer. The printer isn't brand new but it also isn't so old... it supports Bonjour, I've got its firmware up to date. I've tried every permutation and combination of downloading drivers from multiple different HP locations -- struck out every time. To cap it all, [AND ALL USERS NOTE BEFORE BUYING AN HP PRINTER!] HP don't offer any support at all once your printer is out of warranty! Cheeky b^^^^^^s....


If I have to, I'll junk the printer (even though it's only a couple of years old) to get a printer that works. But it's SUCH a waste... is that really necessary? And who knows... maybe the replacement also won't work with my Mac?!


I realise this is an Apple forum but I'm getting nowhere at all on the HP site, just hoping someone on the Apple forums has had the same issue (so at least I will know I'm not alone) and maybe has found an answer.


Thanks in advance.


MacBook Pro (M2 Pro, 2023)

Posted on Oct 29, 2024 1:07 PM

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Oct 29, 2024 6:24 PM in response to Alastair Mac123

HP has many similarly-named and similarly-numbered printers, some variously wildly different.


This is one of the cases where the details can really matter.


I can find this: HP Color LaserJet Enterprise MFP M480f



That printer has AirPrint. Accordingly, doesn’t usually need the whole pile of who-knows-what that HP installs.



I’d remove any HP drivers or HP apps installed, reset the printing system, and try configuring again using AirPrint.




Last HP printer rolled out of here some years ago now, and those then replaced by Brother MFC non-subscription models with AirPrint support.


Oct 29, 2024 5:13 PM in response to Alastair Mac123

Is that printer AirPrint-enabled? I cannot find it in Apple's AirPrint documentation. There is an HP Color LaserJet Enterprise MFP M480 but there is no explicit entry for an HP LaserJet MFP M480f. In general if a printer requires drivers it just isn't going to work with recent Macs. Apple only includes native support for AirPrint devices, and if it requires a third party driver you're on your own.


HP seems to be fond of ridiculously obscure printer designations for reasons known only to them. For all I know there might be an HP LaserJet MFP M480 that is not AirPrint compatible while the HP Color LaserJet Enterprise MFP M480 is. Unless HP explicitly states that device is AirPrint enabled the likelihood of success is slim.


About AirPrint - Apple Support


Any one of those devices will work with macOS Sequoia. Do not install any drivers even if there are any. They are not necessary and will only complicate matters.


Personally I recommend avoiding HP specifically since their Mac support has always been abysmal all the way back to the very first OS X version, and as you wrote they don't even recognize any macOS version later than one that's only three years old. I'm sure they'd be happy to sell you a new printer though, which they'll support for as long as its warranty period. Maybe.


Junking it may be the best thing you've ever done. Buy — almost — anything else, but if you're seeking recommendations I have had nothing but success with Brother's line of AirPrint printers and multifunction devices.


Worth reading: Which Printer Should I Buy? - Apple Community

Nov 3, 2024 6:45 AM in response to Alastair Mac123

AirPrint printers work via both Wi-Fi and wired, mixing printing paths (wired, wireless) works among different clients, and mixing vendor drivers and AirPrint printing from different clients should also work, and AirPrint printers will usually support scanning via AirPrint or via TWAIN.


On Brother…


Brother laser / LED printers all tend to have the same (and near-complete) printing-related network features set available (rather than some printers being feature-limited and some being more feature-complete), tend to have long vendor support, most have AirPrint support, have vendor-branded consumables that aren’t hugely expensive for how long they last and cartridges that last, tend to be reliable printing devices with minimal fussing needed, the cartridges are easy to swap, hatches and doors don’t spontaneously fall off, etc.


The equivalent of AirPrint for other platforms is either using AirPrint or using IPP / IPPS printing, and Brother supports AirPrint and IPP / IPPS in most of their printers. (AirPrint is an extended version of IPP / IPPS printing developed by Apple and HP.)


The oldest printer around here is a 2011-vintage (IIRC) Brother MFC laser (predating ubiquitous AirPrint) and it still works fine, and the Brother iPrint & Scan app still works from iOS and iPadOS, and for wired and wireless printing from Mac and other clients via AirPrint, IPP / IPPS, and classic (and insecure) lpr/lpd and telnet printing from some truly ancient operating systems. It’s admittedly not heavily used anymore, and recently needs cartridges every five years or so. I’ve been looking at a replacement MFC (Staples has the modern equivalent of the same Brother model), but this old Brother just keeps going.


For another opinion: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/2/24117976/best-printer-2024-home-use-office-use-labels-school-homework

Nov 3, 2024 4:06 AM in response to AlWeir

Er... no? Didn't know I had to -- what is that about? That could certainly be part of the issue.


I can't use AirPrint sadly. Well, I could, but it would be too limiting... we have a lot of Macs in the house, and my main Mac (a Studio Desktop) is connected by Ethernet rather than wifi to ensure maximum speed and reliability of the network.


Starting to sound like junking the HP is the only option. What I really need is a MFP that works with native Apple OS -- doesn't matter about the scanner, I can always manually plumb that, but I need the printing to just work, it's becoming a serious pain in my butt that when I need to print something important I never know if it will work perfectly first time, whether it will be a multi-hour painful experience but will get there in the end, or whether it just won't print... there have already been a couple of occasions where I've had a next-morning disaster because I was unable to leave for work with proposal in hand.


Do I understand correctly that Brother seem to be better at making their printers work with Mac without external software? I am sure I've read that somewhere and it also seems to be indicated in this thread.


I just can't get over a major manufacturer like HP effectively kissing goodbye to the entire Apple Mac market...????!!!


Thanks for the support.

Nov 3, 2024 9:19 AM in response to Alastair Mac123

Alastair Mac123 wrote:

I can't use AirPrint sadly. Well, I could, but it would be too limiting... we have a lot of Macs in the house, and my main Mac (a Studio Desktop) is connected by Ethernet rather than wifi to ensure maximum speed and reliability of the network.


I do not understand that comment. The particular communications protocol (AirPrint in this case) is unrelated to a LAN connection. As long as the manufacturer implemented AirPrint wired / wireless / even USB makes no difference. Ethernet is preferable for devices that aren't designed to be portable e.g. most printers.


Do I understand correctly that Brother seem to be better at making their printers work with Mac without external software?


Yes. Unlike HP (and most other device manufacturers for that matter) Brother did things the right way from the beginning. Apple provided instructions and Brother followed them. If there is a polar opposite to that approach, it's HP, who always had "a better idea."


I just can't get over a major manufacturer like HP effectively kissing goodbye to the entire Apple Mac market...????!!!


HP never embraced it to begin with. Their abysmal macOS support is nothing new. Yes, junk the printer. Best thing I ever did.

HP printer just won't work with MBP15 / Sequoia

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