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REVert from APFS to macos Extended journaled

I want to move my internal SATA 3TB back from APFS to macos Extneded journaled format using Terminal.

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Posted on Nov 13, 2024 8:37 AM

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Nov 14, 2024 6:21 AM in response to Macray1950

Repartitioning the drive from APFS to Mac OS Extended will erase all data on the drive and it cannot be done to the drive the Mac is booted from. You must reboot from another drive or boot in Recovery mode.


Why do you want to change the format?

Every macOS version since Catalina requires the internal drive to be formatted APFS.


Make sure you have created a bootable USB installer before you go any further, and confirm that USB installer does in fact boot the Mac properly. Also make sure you have backed up your data because it will be wiped when reformat your internal startup drive.


Create a bootable installer for macOS - Apple Support

Back up your Mac with Time Machine - Apple Support

Erase and reformat a storage device in Disk Utility on Mac - Apple Support


Nov 15, 2024 7:55 AM in response to Macray1950


The startup drive format for macOS 10.11 El Capitan, 10.12 Sierra, 10.13 High Sierra and 10.14 Mojave must be Mac OS Extended because those versions do not recognize APFS.


If you want to run macOS 10.15 Catalina, OS 11 Big Sur or OS 12 Monterey, then the internal startup drive MUST be formatted with APFS.


Macray1950 wrote:

...So propose to relaunch Recovery, erase HDD again, install OS [hope this will be Monterey and not OS X] and then exit into the OS. If that works I'll try and get TMachine to re-install data from the day it all stopped [24/10/24]. ...


If OS 12 Monterey is your goal, then your drive format must be APFS.


After you get your OS reinstalled, you can then use Migration Assistant to recover your user data and files from the TM backup drive. Recover all your files from a Time Machine backup - Apple Support



Nov 15, 2024 6:41 AM in response to Macray1950

FWIW, I have the identical iMac, albeit with a 1TB mechanical drive rather than a 3TB unit, also set up as Fusion Drive, and it works perfectly formatted as APFS. So the problem with your system was not due solely because your Fusion Drive was formatted as APFS. But if Mac OS Extended works better for you, then that certainly should be just fine.


Note that when Apple says that Mac OS Extended is recommended for versions of macOS from 10.12 or earlier, that does not mean Monterey. Apple rather confusingly changed how they number macOS as of Big Sur. macOS 10.12 is actually Sierra, released in 2016. Monterey, released in 201, is officially macOS 12, and Apple does recommend APFS (or at least it's the default) for that version of macOS.


Regards.

Nov 14, 2024 11:19 PM in response to D.I. Johnson

Thanks for getting back and for the advice. This Mac is a late 2015 27" with Fusion Drive [i7 with 32GB RAM, 3TB SATA HDD]. APFS is not recommended for mechanical drives whereas the older format [Extended Journaled] is. As soon as APFS was used on the internal drive all the ports [USB and TBolt] stopped working. Disk U would not look at re-formatting - the icon greyed out, presumably as it was the mounted drive in use. I finally got the drive reformatted using Network boot in Recovery ...and all the USBs / TBolt ports now work; the Time Machine [USB, 3TB LaCie] can be seen and reached. Still not out of the woods as I re-installed the OS [should be Monterey] and then selected Time Machine backup install. It spent a long time on moving data from TMachine and now does not boot in to the OS. So propose to relaunch Recovery, erase HDD again, install OS [hope this will be Monterey and not OS X] and then exit into the OS. If that works I'll try and get TMachine to re-install data from the day it all stopped [24/10/24]. A great machine, having run from new without fault; I'm not wanting to put it in the skip without trying to fix it!

REVert from APFS to macos Extended journaled

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