MacBook Storage Fluctuating Rapidly

I just had the most awful experience these past 2 hours.


I originally had 45 ish (probably) GB of free space on my Mac. I've been dabbling with python scripts using FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) and never had this issue and don't know whether or not it was related.


A few apps gave me notifications (e.g. chrome) that my disk was running low, upon looking in Finder, my disk space was quickly reducing from 20GB of free space down to 100 MB. I tried rebooting 3 or 4 times, and the same issue would happen where it would start between 15-30 GB of free space, and in about a minute or two would dive down to 100 MB of space. The worst case scenario happened, and my Mac would boot but halt signing in, and wouldn't sign in after 2 reboots. I booted up recovery mode, and luckily knew how to use the terminal to delete about 3 GB worth of files (Random App install images I didn't need). Rebooted and signed it perfectly fine, Finder proceeded to do the same thing starting at 10 ish GB of free space, diving down to 6 GB this time, then rising back up to 46 GB. It is now thankfully stable.


At the very start of this, I used disk inventory x to re-measure the capacity by indexing files, of which consumed 920 GB of space out of the 994 GB disk capacity, so I knew it was a bug rather than a lack of space. I don't know whether or not this was because of a forced software update, even though I have automatic updates turned off, and it doesn't seem like any sort of update occured.


Odd.


Lemme know your thoughts.

MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 13.6

Posted on Feb 17, 2025 4:21 PM

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Feb 18, 2025 9:05 AM in response to JWHero123

My first guess would be some cloud based file syncing issue, or file sharing issue such as using BitTorrent.


Try booting into Safe Mode to see if that makes any difference. If this works, then most likely you have an issue with some third party software although certain Apple items could be impacted as well.


You can also turn off WiFi to confirm some app/service is downloading stuff onto your drive. Both of these options may give you a reprieve in order to better investigate the source of the problem while also providing a possible clue.


Could your app you are developing be accidentally causing the problem?


You can also try creating a new macOS user account. Log out of your main user, then log into the new user account. Does this fix the problem? If so, then the issue has been narrowed down to your main user account (perhaps a Login Item, or a configuration issue, or a cloud based issue).

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Feb 18, 2025 9:16 AM in response to JWHero123

From another contributor @etresoft regarding Free Space and Available Space 


For context >> Free vs available disk space huge differe… - Apple Community


Quote >>  “ The "available" storage is the amount of used storage that the operating system could automatically delete if it felt that it was really necessary. The "free" storage is the amount that you can actually use for something.


There are system processes that run in the background and automatically delete some of the "available" storage and convert it to "free". If you completely run out of storage, then those system processes will try a little harder. When you "delete" files you are just hinting to the operating system that you don't need those files anymore. The operating system will eventually remove them, but on its own schedule.


Certain tools will allow you to force the issue and manually clean up some of this storage and manually delete local snapshots. But that is only temporary. "  << End Quote 

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Feb 19, 2025 12:56 AM in response to JWHero123

OP wrote " or a virus. "


There are NONE, " viruses " - Full stop


Sorry but this shows a general lack of knowledge regarding macOS


So one is better to look else if you believe a Virus is the root cause.



Windows-like viruses that self-replicate and affect macOS don’t exist because of the underlying UNIX Foundation and permission limitations.


The macOS operating system resides in a sealed and read-only volume that can’t be opened by users or third-party applications.


Mac app security enhancements are sufficient to protect computers from malware.


Adware and malware can affect computers and are often downloaded from “shady” websites or developers who inject them into downloads.


Source: User tip from @Kurt Lang


What is malware? - Apple Community


Think we have spend enough time on this question and best ti leave this to the user to figure out


Good Luck

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Feb 21, 2025 8:03 PM in response to JWHero123

JWHero123 wrote:

Well then I guess I got mixed up. Regardless, the issue self resolved, it's not fluctuating anymore, so Safe Mode now tells me as much information as a logged in user does. ........ The only way I could access it was through Safe Mode, deleted some files via Terminal so the OS had some breathing room after rebooting, and eventually it fixed itself.

I'm glad Safe Mode helped a bit. I guess whatever app/process that had work to do either got finished or maybe Safe Mode helped to disrupt it.


I don't know if MacOS reserves some space to prevent from rendering the computer unusuable for basic operating system procedures,

Unfortunately that concept seems to be unknown to Apple. Linux has a similar type file system (BTRFS) and they implemented a reserved buffer to prevent the file system from having this exact problem. At least with the Linux file system, before they created the reserved buffer area it had the ability to add an extra storage such as a small USB stick that allowed me to free up some space on the main volume. You can provide Apple with product feedback here:

Feedback - macOS - Apple


You might be getting wrapped up in that my filesystem said it had 35 GB of purgeable space and Finder counted it as available space. This did not happen, I had 45 GB of space on my SSD ready to use, something consumed it, and then freed it. None of this BS purgeable space you're trying to get off topic with.

I wrote my second post because you mentioned and I quote for the second time:


Phew, I used the correct term "free space" because I determined it by Finder > Macintosh HD > Get Info. I was referring to free space here determined by the filesystem within finder, not the available space for the partition determined in Disk Utility


Which gave me the impression that you did not understand my original explanation of how to know the actual Free storage space. While the "Available" value in your case only included a small amount of Purgeable storage, that is not always the case which can make a huge difference....you just got lucky in that one instance. It was meant for educational purposes because any mention of Available storage is too misleading to use unless the Purgeable space is also mentioned so the Free space can actually be calculated. Plus keep in mind that I need to consider other people who will read this post, so I need to make certain that what is discussed is clear....if it wasn't clear to you, then it is likely unclear to others as well.



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Feb 18, 2025 3:46 PM in response to PRP_53

But the value Finder > HD > Get Info updates, and actively dropped from 45 GB of free space down to 100 MB in less than two minutes. I used this because of the LIVE tracking. Disk Util would be more accurate yes but it doesn't automatically update live, you have to refresh. I'm not so caught up on how accurate the reading is, at the moment, Finder says 35.7 GB available on the volume, Disk Util says 35.7 GB available, 1.85 GB purgeable - same values, just more information. The baseline issue was that 45 GB of space was rendered unusuable in less than 2 minutes, and hence I couldn't edit my filesystem. It even spat out an error in Finder saying I couldn't delete files because my disk was full, what a total joke. Whatever ate up that storage that quickly clearly wasn't meant to. I can't even jump to conclusions whether it was an app update, software update, app bug, MacOS bug, or a virus.

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Feb 18, 2025 2:07 PM in response to JWHero123

Follow on but the topic is different that yours


The Issue of Used versus Free space is the intent and focus as to why you are alerted to this


Specifically the posting by my good colleague @HWTech who also appears in your question


Software update suddenly calling for twic… - Apple Community


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Feb 18, 2025 1:06 PM in response to HWTech

I did also initially think that. iCloud Drive was having some syncing issues but only around 20 MB of storage. To mitigate this, I shut off Wi-Fi and whatever caused this still managed to eat up 45 GB of space in less than two minutes. Way faster than any internet speed I've used. The issue is resolved by the way (by booting into recovery mode if you read my entire post). I just came here to find possible causes and other experiences

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Feb 18, 2025 1:11 PM in response to PRP_53

Phew, I used the correct term "free space" because I determined it by Finder > Macintosh HD > Get Info. I was referring to free space here determined by the filesystem within finder, not the available space for the partition determined in Disk Utility

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Feb 18, 2025 2:56 PM in response to JWHero123

JWHero123 wrote:

Phew, I used the correct term "free space" because I determined it by Finder > Macintosh HD > Get Info. I was referring to free space here determined by the filesystem within finder, not the available space for the partition determined in Disk Utility

The information the Finder reports to the user is using the "Available" storage value which is very misleading. The Finder reports the Available value and in parenthesis the Purgeable space. You can use them to calculate the actual real Free space value:


Free space = Available space - Purgeable space


Available space = Purgeable space + Free space


Purgeable space is storage that will be released by macOS at some unknown time in the future, so the Purgeable space is cannot be used immediately. Only the Free space can be used immediately. The Free space value shown in Disk Utility is the most important & accurate storage value there is in macOS. Even the Used space value can be misleading if you make copies of data within the same APFS volume due to how the APFS file system works and how macOS is reporting this information.


Did you try Safe Mode or another macOS user account to compare results as I suggested in my previous post? These two troubleshooting tips may be able to further narrow down the source of the problem.


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Feb 18, 2025 4:01 PM in response to HWTech

Well then I guess I got mixed up. Regardless, the issue self resolved, it's not fluctuating anymore, so Safe Mode now tells me as much information as a logged in user does. I didn't keep track of purgeable storage because I didn't even know it was a thing. As I mentioned replying to PRP_53, I used Finder only as a guide for watching the immensely fast drop in currently writeable space, I don't know if MacOS reserves some space to prevent from rendering the computer unusuable for basic operating system procedures, but I couldn't open any applications once it was down to 100 MB of writeable space and it would freeze logging in after attempting to reboot twice. The only way I could access it was through Safe Mode, deleted some files via Terminal so the OS had some breathing room after rebooting, and eventually it fixed itself.


As I mentioned to PRP_53, I don't see how purgeable space is relevant if this was out of the blue. I had 45 GB of space for weeks, computer's running fine, yesterday for about an hour it decided it had no space left, the hour after that it said "my bad, I now have space". I would think purgeable space would have the opposite effect, releasing space more than 45 GB. 45 GB was what Finder said, and now with Finder saying 35 GB available, it matches with 35 GB available in Disk Util, with 1.85 GB purgeable. You might be getting wrapped up in that my filesystem said it had 35 GB of purgeable space and Finder counted it as available space. This did not happen, I had 45 GB of space on my SSD ready to use, something consumed it, and then freed it. None of this BS purgeable space you're trying to get off topic with.

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Mar 24, 2025 7:58 PM in response to JWHero123

I have also experienced issue with fluctuating disk space. Main task was kernal task. Was freeing up loads of space and then seemed to be consuming it as soon as I freed it up.


Checked there were no updates as automatic updates are on and this can trigger this type of behaviour. No updates last checked today.


After restart it went up to 10GB then down to 3 back up to 5 and now on 11 within a coupe of minutes?!


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