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Mac Pro running OS El Capitan refuses to complete startup

Mac Pro, 10.11

Posted on Feb 21, 2024 2:07 AM

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Posted on Feb 24, 2024 9:46 AM

Yes! Looked down there and there it was...cryptic is right but excellent way to check what's in the tin!

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Feb 27, 2024 4:37 PM in response to image.magic

When I suggested above that you NOT replace like-for-like I wanted to be sure you did not simply replace that old 2600 card with a fixed up version of the same old card, because graphics technology has moved along briskly since the 2600 was a good card.


You can still buy a good Apple-firmware 5770 card for not a lot of money, and it will work better and run much cooler than the original card, because the chips on it are newer technology that runs cooler.


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Aux câbles sometimes come with the new card, but are always re-usable from the old card. they are about 6 inches long and plug into some sockets on the backplane nearby, because the PCIe slots can't provide all the power needed to run most graphics cards.

Mar 4, 2024 4:42 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant - have replaced my existing graphics card with the 5770. It came with one Aux cable which was plugged in...the Mac started and I got a chime, but no Apple logo and progress bar. Was wondering if I needed to use another cable? Also the graphics card that was in the machine was a Nividia GeForce. (I can send pics if necessary) Do I need to source some firmware for the 5770? Thank you...



Mar 4, 2024 11:29 AM in response to image.magic

DVI Single link does not use the six center pins (whether present or not) and supports display up to 1920 wide, but not wider.


To simplify, I suggest you cut the disk drive and software out of the equation.


The simplest thing that Mac Pro can do is boot to Startup Manager, whose code is all in ROM. Invoke with the Alt-Option key held at startup.


it will draw a gray screen, then proceed to add ani Icon for each discovered potentially-bootable drive. the picture should stay stable and predictable.

Mar 6, 2024 7:20 AM in response to image.magic

Alt/Option boot is VERY simple, and its code is all in ROM.

if you don't get a stable screen, the fault is Likely in the graphics card.


Perhaps the card you received was not as good as the seller expected. Sometimes one interface on a card can collapse while other are still working. The seller may not have tested all interfaces. That card may work GREAT with its mini DisplayPort interfaces, but the DVI might not be working.

Mar 24, 2024 7:29 AM in response to image.magic

<<. I have been given some advice that I should keep this machine 'away' from the internet - that is not allow it to access my WiFi. >>


There are two kinds of vulnerabilities that have no way to be resolved with that setup.


The first is an obscure attack vector that could expose prefetched cached data to break into other processes running on your computer. Its use requires an attacker with state-level sophistication, but it is a vulnerability nonetheless. Intel declined to provide adequate firmware revisions to cut it off, saying these processors were too old. Apple revised Safari to blunt most of its use without crippling multi-processing performance.


The second is more mundane software updates that cut off newly-discovered vulnerabilities in macOS. Once 10.14 Mojave was released, any new security updates were not sent out for 10.11 El Capitan. So your older MacOS may not be able to defend itself against current attacks.


The overall threat limit may not be that high, but it is definitely not as low as many users would like. If you are a political activist or official of any kind, or have any comparable visibility, you should NOT connect this Mac to the Internet.


(The reverse is deliberately left hanging. It is up to you.)

Mar 4, 2024 10:29 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I have two screens; a Mac Studio display and a Dell screen. When I first tried the new graphics card it was with the Studio display - just got continuous chime after chime. With the Dell plugged in and attached, the first time we tried it we got the grey screen and just for a brief second or two the apple logo; which disappeared quickly leaving the blank grey screen. Trying again we got a blank black screen, and when I went back to check to answer your query I tried again with the Dell and got chime after chime after chime :(... The plugs that connect the Dell and the Studio Display are slightly different. In the illustration that I have sent below: the studio display has the configuration of the plug on the RHS top; DVI-D Single Link; the Dell has the configuration immediatly below DVI-D Dual Link. Thank you again for your reply and question.



Feb 21, 2024 7:54 AM in response to image.magic

The initial "chime" sound is generated in software when your Mac passes the Power-On Self Test. If the chime occurs and/or startup continues, your Mac is working. The screen should light up and draw a blank gray screen. Then on to the Disk Drive.


Accessing the Boot drive:

The solid Apple is not in the Mac's ROM at Cold start. The Apple logo can only appear when it is fetched in the first "blob" of software loaded from a 'magic' place on the boot drive, or re-run after a Restart. Then a whole lot of stuff is initialized, and the progress Bar moves part way across. After a cold start, seeing the solid Apple appear says your drive was able to produce the software that contains the Apple logo.


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the trash on the screen at the same time suggests your graphics card may be failing. if this is the original card, I recommend you not replace like-for-like, as there are much better alternatives available.


Mac Pro running OS El Capitan refuses to complete startup

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