MacPro 4,1 starting with grey screen after SMC and PRAM resets

My Mac Pro (Early 2009) running El Capitan starts up with a grey screen, I have to do an SMC and a PRAM reset each time. Trying to wake it from sleep mode doesn't work when a password is required to wake it up, only after deactivating this feature waking from sleep is possible. With password required, either the password field remains inactive, or after typing in the password, it keeps spinning.


The only other flaw I noticed is that trying to generate a system report (from About this mac) causes beachballing with every else inactive and inaccessible.


EtreCheck renders nothing.


Any idea?


Thanks!

Posted on Jul 27, 2024 12:52 PM

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Posted on Jul 27, 2024 3:23 PM

your boot drive is Full. You may be moments away from a very spectacular crash.


you have only 26.23 GB free, and the swap file is on that drive, so just open a few more web pages and kaboom! For reference, MacOS consumes over 9GB of drive space going from a cold start to fully operational.


in addition, you have not enabled TRIM, so that drive has slowed to the speed of a rotating magnetic drive:


Performance:


    System Load: 3.86 (1 min ago) 4.73 (5 min ago) 2.75 (15 min ago)

    Nominal I/O speed: 0.03 MB/s

    File system: 15.16 seconds

    Write speed: 233 MB/s

    Read speed: 269 MB/s


use Terminal command:


sudo trimforce enable


and enter your password (which will not be echoed) and follow the directions, culminating with an automatic restart to engage.


https://www.lifewire.com/enable-trim-for-ssd-in-os-x-yosemite-2260789


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Jul 29, 2024 4:49 PM in response to Nikolai Franke

if you have another Mac, you can get access to some downloads, such as MacOS 10.11 El Capitan, or 10.13 High Sierra. You may be able to unpack it and make yourself a bootable MacOS installer on a USB-Stick.


The earliest MacBook Pro 2018 shipped with MacOS 10.13, so it might actually be able to boot from a hand-made 10.13 USB-stick installer, PROVIDED you had a chat with Recovery Security Utility to allow booting from external drives.


this can, in theory be done on a Windows machine, but requires some developer-caliber software, and results are not guaranteed.


You need a USB-stick of size at least 8 GB for this exercise, that is completely erase-able. later versions required a larger, at least 16 GB, USB-stick.

Jul 30, 2024 12:45 PM in response to Nikolai Franke

oh put that way too complicated stack exchange procedure away.


download the .dmg.

double-click to open it. the disk image mounts. it contains a .pkg.

double-click the .pkg to open it. It runs and PLACES the Installer App in the /Applications folder. (it DOES NOT INSTALL)


The 'make a bootable installer USB-stick' scripts REQUIRE that the Installer Application be present and located in the /Applications folder. The tools you invoke with those complex terminal commands are INSIDE the Installer image.


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Make sure you have named your USB stick exactly MyVolume.


Open the article with the 'make a USB stick commands'. Open a Terminal window. Select the entire Terminal command from the article and Copy to the clipboard. Click in the terminal window and PASTE the entire command in the terminal window. Press return, and you are going.

Jul 30, 2024 4:58 PM in response to Nikolai Franke

if you install on the internal disk, the Installer will be erased at the end of the process. if you install anywhere else, the Installer will be retained, and you can create a USB-stick installer later, and just set it aside for emergencies. Because your Mac Pro 4,1 does not have built-in recovery, making the bootable installer of El Capitan or later would be a good thing to do.


Booting from an external drive us a great way to attempt to rescue a failing drive, because the criteria for Mounting a drive are far lower than for Booting from the same drive.


The long term solution to retaining your files is to make Time Machine backups. After the initial backup, they just happen at low priority in the background, and the Time Machine backup is MUCH more likely to be there when you need it.

Jul 28, 2024 7:30 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

On the display: Since yesterday the grey screen appeared and persisted just as it does now, but was remedied by resetting SMC and NVRAM, whereafter I could log in and use the mac, and now that remedy seized to work, it does appear to me as though the problem lies with the system, not with the display. I could try finding another display to be sure.


I bought the mac refurbished many, many years ago and it came without the original disks, unfortunately.


I have two bootable external drives but neither do I get a choice to boot them (holding down the option key during startup), nor does the system (or the ROM) choose one on its own. The screen remains grey indefinitely.

Jul 29, 2024 12:28 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thanks, good idea (somewhat obvious, I still didn't think of it, so—thanks). I did take out the startup disk, starting up now I got first a darker grey apple logo on the otherwise unchanged light grey screen, then a no-go sign replacing the apple logo, then back to the apple logo, and so on. I'm fairly certain at least two other bootable volumes connected but I may of course be wrong.


Does this tell you anything of use?

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