Pro Display XDR momentarily looses connection to Mac Pro 2019

My Apple Pro Display XDR momentarily looses connection to Mac Pro 2019. Sometimes this can occur back to back within 10 seconds, so like 5 blackouts then come back on and stay "normal" for hours...then happen again.


Setup:

Mac Pro 2019, 12 core, AMD Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB, 32GB memory.


+ Pro Display XDR is plugged into the back "IO board" via the supplied USB-C cable.

+ Apple Cinema Display (ACD) 30" is connected to the top of the Mac Pro using a third party Apple Display Port to USB-C adapter.

+ Logitech 4k Pro camera with XDR magnetic mount plugged also into the top of the Mac Pro.


iPad Pro 11" (gen 2) plugged into the back of the Pro Display XDR via USB-C for charging...

Even when both ACD and XDR displays are 'OFF' and the Mac is not showing anything on the screen, I can hear the iPad "power restored" chime occur. So I know this is happening even when no user is using the Mac Pro.


This problem began with macOS Sonoma 14.x

Today I upgraded to macOS Sequoia 15.1

The problem has now occurred in Sequoia also.

I do not know if this is a hardware issue or a software issue, or a what.


Apple Support:

Apple Support phone team suggested running in Safe Mode to try to isolate the problem. But they told me to call them "right away" if I could get it to happen again...something about grabbing the logs off my machine.


I do not know how they expect me to run this Mac in Safe Mode for days and then somehow reach a support engineer within a few minutes of the logs? Why can't they just pull the logs under normal mode?


Side Note:

Originally I could connect both displays to the "IO Board" into the two USB-C ports but a macOS update apparently "standardized" the Thunderbolt specs over USB-C and after getting into a support call with Apple Engineer, they determined that a 6K plus a 2.5K display would not be workable on one USB-C board...too many pixels (again, this 'broke' after they standardized some Thunderbolt specs).


Timeframe:

It began maybe this spring, 2024...



Posted on Dec 6, 2024 3:29 PM

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Dec 6, 2024 3:42 PM in response to ferrerod

Redbeard3469 I see you had something very similar with momentary XDR blackouts, reported in this thread:

Apple Pro Display XDR goes black intermit… - Apple Community


Did you ever get this resolved and if so what was determined to be the problem? Mac Pro, Video Card, IO card, USB-C cable? XDR?


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Dec 7, 2024 9:59 AM in response to ferrerod

This post seems more about waking up the XDR after the display went to sleep. That isn't my issue. Nevertheless, I did try the tip offer: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/waking-xdr-display-from-sleep.2221681/


Powered down the Mac Pro, unplugged every wire including the power cable. Held down the Power button about a minute. Plugged everything back in and powered up.


However this time, I only connected the XDR USB-C, and the Mac Pro power cable. The only other devices are connected via logitech Bluetooth keyboard and a Apple bluetooth Mouse.


First thing this morning before I had touched the Mac for several hours overnight, I heard the iPad power restored chime sound, so I knew this issue was still happening...


Next, I will try connecting the XDR to one of the top Mac Pro USB-C ports to try to determine if the IO build on the back is the problem...

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Dec 7, 2024 10:10 AM in response to ferrerod

There sure is a lot more software inside an Apple Pro Display XDR than in a simpler display.


Some users got relief by disconnecting all cables (especially power) from the display and giving it timeout for a quarter hour. Moving it to face the corner or sitting on the naughty-stair is optional.

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Dec 7, 2024 10:31 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I never thought of unplugging the power cable on the XDR. I'll try that also.


Someone else on a different forum also suggested these problems started for them when they plugged the XDR power into a UPS. I did that also this year. I checked the AC Voltage and it measured just slightly below the expected 120V in the USA. It measured 118.5 - 119.5v. I do not think that meets the threshold for a voltage sag but it is on my radar. The UPS is an APC BackUPS 900 fwiw.

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Dec 20, 2024 7:53 AM in response to ferrerod

Ok, the problem is now pointing at the Mac Pro, NOT the XDR.


I brought the whole kit to the Apple Store Genius Bar. The Genius decided based on description to take the XDR in for a 48 hour 'observation'. He told me there is NO hardware diagnostic tests they can run on the XDR. (so it puzzles me why they took it in).


Over the last two XDR-less days, I've been running the Mac Pro with bluetooth logitech keyboard and bluetooth Apple mouse...and my older 30" ACD plugged into the Mac Pro via a two adapters: ACD to Apple's DVI-D to Thunderbolt and then a 3rd part Thunderbolt to USC-C DisplayPort. I've had success with this string of adapters for some time now.


Anyway, the ACD has blacked out at least once per day that I've noticed and only very momentarily (like the XDR did). This time I ran sudo sysdiagnose almost immediately after it happened, AND, I had enabled Console app ahead of time to be streaming logs (and there are MANY MANY logs). I hope this capture will help me to get this sorted...


Meanwhile I've learned I can reinstall macOS without having to wipe my own data...I will also try that next.

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Dec 20, 2024 8:34 AM in response to ferrerod

what graphics card?

which interface?

OOPS, never mind, you said 580X plugged into the I/O board


consider plugging directly into the graphics card itself, rather than the I/O board, if possible. if you have multiple ports on the graphics card that could be used, try another.

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Dec 20, 2024 1:43 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

yes, AMD Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB.

The Mac Pro has the IO board on the back with 2 USC-C and two USB-A and an 1/8" audio jack. The top of the Mac Pro has two additional USB-C. I believe all these are actually Thunderbolt (3) ports. I've tried the XDR in bot the IO card as well as the top USB-C ports as well as the ACD. Seems to happen on rear and top.


It looks like the AMD Radeon Pro 580X has two HDMI ports, just above the Ethernet ports on the rear. Unfortunately both my Pro Display XDR and the daisy-chained-adapters on my old Apple Cinema Display 30" all terminate with USB-C interfaces, not HDMI.


I just finished re-installing macOS...only it upgraded me to Sequoia 15.2 (instead of 15.1.1). I will find out soon if these glitches go away.... as I said, the Mac Pro hardware tests all passed.

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